tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6717820694387825462.post6063569968636219168..comments2023-05-11T03:45:31.731-07:00Comments on 40K Unorthodoxy: The Wraithbone sings in anticipationUnorthodoxyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01577407895720451428noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6717820694387825462.post-81534529865067850252012-12-26T01:48:11.514-08:002012-12-26T01:48:11.514-08:00Looks like it would be a good matchup. And sopuld...Looks like it would be a good matchup. And sopuldn't you know it, I dont work on Wednesday/Unorthodoxyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01577407895720451428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6717820694387825462.post-50198617995928314012012-12-21T14:41:16.979-08:002012-12-21T14:41:16.979-08:00That was awesome. It leaves me wanting to play a g...That was awesome. It leaves me wanting to play a game!Gonewild40khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03288386569896024651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6717820694387825462.post-69101392595020436212012-12-21T00:26:22.240-08:002012-12-21T00:26:22.240-08:00The force multiplier would be, I assume, the Farse...The force multiplier would be, I assume, the Farseer since the Farseers "power" is basically unstoppable. The Farseers impact is mostly dedicated to his artillery unit and his unit doesn't need him to be good but he does make them GREAT. So a wise choice to try and end him.<br /><br />I assume the whirlwind would be the sniping tool of choice against the list I created. It's a good weapon in general and certainly ideal against lightly armored forces like mine. Taking out the Whirlwind would be an important.goal made tougher on me by the fact it will have no intention of ever being in line of sight and safely ensconced behind an Aegis Defense line if I dont miss my guess. Good show!<br /><br />I feel the Dreadnought will be hands down the biggest threat and I suspect the Eldar Artillery will have all eyes on it as it arrives! If it is left to its own devices it will never allow me to free myself up to kill those troops. The Reapers are another story though. Collectively my army is ideally suited to kill masses of Marines and in turn your force is quite excellent at attacking massed infantry. An excellent contest then!<br /><br />Speaking of troops, your flamers would be hideously effective against a foot army. They would need to be stopped in round 2 and 3 with authority. The scatter deity must shine on me just a little in order to give my force any chance. The Marines MUST charge relentlessly forward because they cannot stay back and take the artillery beating. However the sheer number of Space marine bodies is daunting and collectively they may lose many men but when they finally arrive they will do damage and are superior in every way that matters to my own troops in hand to hand combat. My initiative is not going to hep me much given I am STR 3.<br /><br />Did I miss anything?<br /><br />Unorthodoxyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01577407895720451428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6717820694387825462.post-86851404397804351512012-12-20T23:57:15.795-08:002012-12-20T23:57:15.795-08:00Excellent I will check that out. My Farseer is th...Excellent I will check that out. My Farseer is the only real multiplier, and he is in a hard core unit to try and kill (tough 7, 2 wounds, 3+ saves on the guns and of course you know how artillery works). But I'll read your post and see whats up.Unorthodoxyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01577407895720451428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6717820694387825462.post-32617131316495298502012-12-20T14:48:31.821-08:002012-12-20T14:48:31.821-08:00It depends on the scenario, but for the most part ...It depends on the scenario, but for the most part I would attempt to remove your force multiplier(s), then your troops! I outlined my list and thoughts about in the following blog post;<br />http://gonewild40k.blogspot.com/2012/12/list-ideas-re-unorthodoxy.htmlGonewild40khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03288386569896024651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6717820694387825462.post-91498954153967672802012-12-19T10:00:34.327-08:002012-12-19T10:00:34.327-08:00Now here's a question for you. Having played ...Now here's a question for you. Having played successfully against a smaller Warp Spider heavy forces before with, I think with Space Wolves...How would you defeat my force?Unorthodoxyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01577407895720451428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6717820694387825462.post-24197685966474019332012-12-17T19:48:04.584-08:002012-12-17T19:48:04.584-08:00I really want to, but work calls :(. I need to get...I really want to, but work calls :(. I need to get a game in and shake off these cobwebs. Let me talk to the Boss, and see if whats happening this weekend! Gonewild40khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03288386569896024651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6717820694387825462.post-30121309170549973112012-12-17T17:12:34.695-08:002012-12-17T17:12:34.695-08:00You don't seeem bitter.
But you know there...You don't seeem bitter.<br /><br />But you know there's only one way to overcome the bitterness you in no way are feeling right now. Fight mah! Fight mah if ya caaaahn!<br /><br />Seriously. We need to fight now. Its for your own good. A Tension filled life is no life at all. You gotta just get that aggression out...slap a few Eldar silly maybe?Unorthodoxyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01577407895720451428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6717820694387825462.post-45681453441850685732012-12-17T13:30:07.193-08:002012-12-17T13:30:07.193-08:00Oh, in the 41st Millennium I'm sure they could...Oh, in the 41st Millennium I'm sure they could figure out some manner of hydraulics or other 'magix' to safely mitigate difficult terrain without blocking the front exit of a Land Raider. Because Murphy's Law dictates that a Land Raider will never, ever, fail a difficult terrain test and immobilize where you 'want' or 'need' it. <br /><br />The most majestic tank employed by Imperial Forces (so much so, that it has it's own 'spirit'), and yet it is not provided a piddly measure that even lowly Rhinos can equip for a mere 5 points...<br /><br />I'm not bitter. <br /><br />Gonewild40khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03288386569896024651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6717820694387825462.post-41584467304459956592012-12-17T10:41:14.620-08:002012-12-17T10:41:14.620-08:00I think its because a dozer blade makes no sense o...I think its because a dozer blade makes no sense on a land raider. Look at how people exit the vehicle. It's not very practical to put a Dozer there. Imagine what would happen to the dozer when those doors opened. Lol.<br /><br />The immobilization affected the game very little, but it was certainly just "one more thing" to be frustrated about". The crushing amount of damage I was able to cause really made the Land Raider just icing on the cake.<br /><br />It felt in every way like a win, but wasn't. I need to get more games in, perhaps Tuesday and Saturday. I will try and play a variety of opponents and report back here on what happens next.Unorthodoxyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01577407895720451428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6717820694387825462.post-72536042941052487092012-12-17T10:03:09.799-08:002012-12-17T10:03:09.799-08:00It has been my experience that a Land Raider is go...It has been my experience that a Land Raider is going to fail a difficult terrain test. It never fails, and the real question is why dozer blades aren't an option to take? Is it to protect the reputation of the LR? Gonewild40khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03288386569896024651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6717820694387825462.post-1114792570064872272012-12-13T00:22:46.481-08:002012-12-13T00:22:46.481-08:00Okay I have updated the list to include the Quad g...Okay I have updated the list to include the Quad gun and the Aegis Defense Line. Le Sigh. <br /><br />The good news is, the essential function of the list still works and the Firepower was upgraded just slighly. I have an interesting tactic I might try with that Aegis too. I have never seen anyone do it but from my reading of how obstacles like that work, it could be hilarious. I'll try it and maybe blog about it afterwards if it has the desired effect over thecourse of games. Plus it'll give me time to delve ino the rules and make sure I am not missing something.Unorthodoxyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01577407895720451428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6717820694387825462.post-53276999578122372832012-12-12T15:12:54.714-08:002012-12-12T15:12:54.714-08:00Yup. Those Crazy crazy Raiders. Always looking f...Yup. Those Crazy crazy Raiders. Always looking for an excuse for their crews to loaf about.Unorthodoxyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01577407895720451428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6717820694387825462.post-11741574716347442442012-12-12T14:53:47.067-08:002012-12-12T14:53:47.067-08:00Landraider 0
Difficult terrain 2Landraider 0 <br />Difficult terrain 2Six Duecehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01258332990364788500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6717820694387825462.post-49047186993300202942012-12-12T14:20:24.493-08:002012-12-12T14:20:24.493-08:00Correction, the Autarch Stunned the Land Raider. ...Correction, the Autarch Stunned the Land Raider. it immobilized itself later. Lol.Unorthodoxyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01577407895720451428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6717820694387825462.post-80171307884229086732012-12-12T14:15:53.112-08:002012-12-12T14:15:53.112-08:00It is. It has seen two games now and in both, the...It is. It has seen two games now and in both, the army put severe damage on the enemy while relatively speaking taking little in return. In the first game it was a win. The opponent is a good General I have faced many times and he is a multiple tourney champ, including my own Ambassadorial tournament. He played a Chaos Space Marine army with a slanesh bent to it. The firepower of my units was overwhelming to him and my mobility really disallowed him from sitting back. He had to come for me and knew it and once he did I could encircle him.<br /><br />In the second game it was a loss. I lost two Jetbike units, all the Warp Spiders (the saves were just not there for them and they epically failed on their landing, taking 5 wounds just from terrain!) my Autarch (fter it imobilized the Land raider) and the Scorpions (who killed a Psyker Battle Sqaud and a Punisher tank before succumbing). It was the scourging Mission. It was mostly just a tactical lapse on my part that lost the game. He really had only killed Two Warp Spider units, the autarch and my Scorpions until the last round, so Overall I was very pleased with the outcome. He was down to 3 models, an immobilized Land Raider stuck in his backfield and two empty Vindettas. The Vindettas really made the difference in the game. As you can see, the list does not have excellent answers to flyers (which is true of many lists right now unless they want to go in for the Defense line or allies). None of the six objectives ended up being a Skyfire nexus which was also unfortunate, because going in to the last turn, I literally controlled all the objectives save one (and that one was where the tactical error occurred). I sort of beat myself in that game by not moving one of my bike units to the higher point objective. There were multiple reasons to do it but I just didn't, basically and that was the game rigth there. He astuitely had hidden his Vindettas in ongoing reserve to make a last dash at the objectives and just managed enough damage to get it done. I ended withy Slay the Warlord and Line Breaker. he ended with Slay the Warlord and First Blood which oddly he did not get until the end of turn 2. that doesn't happen too often.<br /><br />I will consider an Aegis Line in exchange for a Jetbike unit and perhaps a Reaper upgrade. I have to ponder that but it seems GW has succeeded in forcing my hand. The Flyer rules are simply too impressive to overcome with volume, even volume as great as I can bring with this force (though I did get 2 glances on one and a glance o nthe other, so it was close). I am pretty deeply disappointed by that though. I really don't like the aegis line and fortifications in general. I feel it adds a sameness to every list which is kind of boring. Everyone and their mother has one. How is it that every battlefield you go to has two of these in postion, ready to go? So WIERD right? Lol. I guess the role player in me just hates the unrealistic way that makes battlefields look and even makes some armies fight. But I see no reasonable alternative. Its nearly a straight up Firepower swap between the bikes and the cannon, only the line has more special rules, more shots and can't score. So it isn't the firepower issue that bothers me. Its just the principle of the thing. But principles will have to take a back seat to efficacy, methinks.<br />Unorthodoxyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01577407895720451428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6717820694387825462.post-50653487080138944142012-12-12T08:12:49.987-08:002012-12-12T08:12:49.987-08:00nice looking listnice looking listAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17806757229918166448noreply@blogger.com