tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6717820694387825462.post1599523235367464708..comments2023-05-11T03:45:31.731-07:00Comments on 40K Unorthodoxy: Games WorkshopUnorthodoxyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01577407895720451428noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6717820694387825462.post-17710130758709088532016-03-21T10:34:21.178-07:002016-03-21T10:34:21.178-07:00well GW just posted a Facebook thingee for the fir...well GW just posted a Facebook thingee for the first time I think ever as far as asking which questions we would like answered from the design team. Clearly whoever runsd the actual page is not a designer and he made that clear but it is noteworthy that they appear to be seeing their competition eat their lunch and are actually...dare we dream...caring? So this minor tremor in the force is just that: a MINOR tremor. But I wont say its nothing.Unorthodoxyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01577407895720451428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6717820694387825462.post-11292887393322708312016-03-17T07:43:12.502-07:002016-03-17T07:43:12.502-07:00The majority of our generation enjoy playing compe...The majority of our generation enjoy playing competitive games. Games founded on clear, well-written, concise, and fun rules. I agree 100% with FWyver- the Company's rebranding as being a 'modeling' company was a definite slap in the face. I'm not going to bash the Company, other than to say that if Josef is waggling a finger at Gee Dubs then the situation has become dire. <br /><br />I love the idea that 40K represents, and it's potential as a game. A change of culture in the upper echelons of Gee Dubs is what is necessary to see a positive change in the game we love.Gonewild40khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03288386569896024651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6717820694387825462.post-46516262122018507562016-03-12T12:36:08.919-08:002016-03-12T12:36:08.919-08:00I am one of the people who has left GW behind. I s...I am one of the people who has left GW behind. I still check your blog occasionally as I enjoy your writing, especially on subjects like this.<br /><br />I have never been a tournament player, it's only ever just been casual games at my friendly local game shop, but even with just that I own thousands of points worth of Eldar, Dark Eldar, Harlequins, Tau, Orks and bits and pieces of other forces and a bunch of fantasy stuff. That represents a pretty significant investment. If I was simply collecting the models for the models sake I don't imagine I would ever have bought £50 worth of eldar guardians or hoards of gretchin. Certainly I know one or two people who genuinely buy models simply to have and paint, but I know easily 10 times that number who buy them to use them to play. Maybe I'm being naive, but surely playing the game must be the biggest driver of GW's sales?<br /><br />My main reason for drifting away from 40k towards other systems (I play a lot of bolt action and BtGoAntares now among dabbling in others) is the companies move away from systematic and balanced rule writing. The Eldar codex did it for me last year, I played Eldar at the time, but I just couldn't bear the unchecked power creep. The company has been reported as describing itself as a 'miniatures company' rather than a 'games company'. As a player of games rather than a collector of miniatures this attitude felt insulting. I began to get the impression that there was some level of contempt for the players from the management level of the company - to use a school yard metaphor - it felt like the stigma the 'cool kids' give the stereotypical nerdy war-gamers.<br /><br />I can't speak for everyone, but when I play a game I want to play a game where I feel like both players have a good chance of winning, and that the thing that decides the result is a combination of the luck of the dice and the inspirational action of the players. I do not enjoy games that are so unbalanced that the result is predictable from the start, and I had begin to find that 40k was becoming like that for me and my meta.<br /><br />I admit, I am particular about rules. I have for a long time dabbled in writing game systems. I appreciate intelligent and novel mechanics. I may well be an outlier, and many of my former opponents are still happily playing, but I know others who have given up on 40k as well. <br /><br />It's entirely possible that I'll return at some point in the future, but to be honest it will take a significant change of direction on GW's part before I'll be tempted. I genuinely don't understand their current philosophy.FWyvernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6717820694387825462.post-74360705129513059212016-02-28T21:55:43.759-08:002016-02-28T21:55:43.759-08:00I'll try real hard to care that some people ar...I'll try real hard to care that some people are in it "for the models" as long as it's acknowledged that this is sort of irrelevant nd not actually a large section of the players. I am sure that there are some (moreso for Fantasy which cn be directly stolen and put to use in so many RPG's). I don't think they change my point at all. <br /><br />Buying through other means is a given. You only buy new when you must, but this only underscores my point, really.<br /><br />Flames of War is most definitely less expensive and I just went to a tournament and played my Japanese Kihei Chutai force, n Portland. Had a great time. Warhammer is likely to stay my favorite game for the forseeable future, but as I've sid: GW is fooling themselves if they think there aren't more like you out there and frankly, the $200 you spent elsewhere could have been there's if they treated you better. Losing $200 per customer per quarter or even bi-annually is a lot of money over time.Unorthodoxyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01577407895720451428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6717820694387825462.post-45255478971977120722016-02-27T02:56:01.792-08:002016-02-27T02:56:01.792-08:00Remember though that not all 40K fans actually pla...Remember though that not all 40K fans actually play games. They're in it for the models, modelling and converting.<br /><br />Also many 40K gamers do game but with E-Bay bought models - probably unpainted.<br /><br />But on the whole I'm with you on this. GW probably needs to become less arrogant and realise that their market pool of largely middle class white literates isn't the only market out there.<br /><br />I myself am a long-time Dark Angels gamer but have become increasingly disenchanted with the whole 40K 'thing' that I'm now turning to Flames of War as a fresh - and relatively inexpensive - wargaming experience.<br /><br />It'll also take up considerably less space ;)<br /><br />Cheers<br />IIsiahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16407354634315421261noreply@blogger.com